lebrick Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 1:17 PM, Ed Mack said: ]My son and I would rather watch people playing video games or shoving fireworks up their butts than videos reviewing LEGO sets. Hmmm.... just when I thought I was running out of things to watch on youtube... Btw, why wasn't I informed about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ravenb99 Posted June 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 4:17 PM, Ed Mack said: My son and I would rather watch people playing video games or shoving fireworks up their butts than videos reviewing LEGO sets. try not limiting yourself to the butt, fireworks go great on both sides... 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val-E Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Behind ever successful Bricklink store there is a 7-year-old child with blisters on their fingers from sorting bricks. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, ravenb99 said: try not limiting yourself to the butt, fireworks go great on both sides... Here is the king... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebrick Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Now I don't feel like I belong in this world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Ed Mack said: Funny thing is that they are so protective of their brand and crack down on people who want to promote their product, yet when it comes to the real thieves of intellectual property, they build factories in China and Mexico. Agreed. Why the hell haven’t they shut down bogus bricks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbee Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Yes, it’s the parents’ fault. Why would it be the kid’s fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Mack Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Mathew said: Agreed. Why the hell haven’t they shut down bogus bricks? https://bogusbricks.wordpress.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Unfortunately that’s how corporate legal departments work. They're the worst. They have no connection to the company, the product or the fans. They only care about the fat six figure paycheck. Speaking as someone who works in a corporate legal department (albeit not one for a consumer products company), this post is completely uninformed. There are two things to understand about IP protection that I think are important here: (1) the need to go after infringers, and (2) the level of effort involved in going after infringers.On the first point, a company with IP rights has to be diligent in going after infringers or risks the possibility of a court finding that its failure to do resulted in a waiver of whatever IP rights it may have once had. This is why companies will draw hard lines against people like Brickshow who are infringing their rights for purpose of promoting their products. There are likely other concerns at play as well, but this is often a major driver in situations like this.On the second point, it is important to realize that it is much much easier to address infringement on a platform like Youtube than it is to go after an individual website or rogue manufacturer. Youtube had an entire compliance infrastructure built to respond to claims of infringement by rights holders because Google has deep pockets and doesn't want to get sued.Bottom line in this case is that Brickshow played with fire by posting watermarked pictures and got burned. It sucks for them and everyone who liked watching their videos, but there is no mystery to why it happened.Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, redcell said: On the second point, it is important to realize that it is much much easier to address infringement on a platform like Youtube than it is to go after an individual website or rogue manufacturer. Youtube had an entire compliance infrastructure built to respond to claims of infringement by rights holders because Google has deep pockets and doesn't want to get sued. In other words go after the small guys because it’s easier to nail them. Less legal entanglements. You proved my point. It backfires because shows like BS are promoting the brand. Instead of taking them down Lego should be working with them. YouTube will start to pay as they push away from their roots in attempt to be just another paid subscription service. Edited June 27, 2018 by Mathew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble&Park Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 In other words go after the small guys because it’s easier to nail them. Less legal entanglements. You proved my point. It backfires because shows like BS are promoting the brand. Instead of taking them down Lego should be working with them. That isn't what he said at all. Sent from my SM-G935V using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pebble&Park said: That isn't what he said at all. Sent from my SM-G935V using Brickpicker Forum mobile app Yes. YouTube gives the lawyers an easy framework to work within. They can be lazy and earn the fat check that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble&Park Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, Mathew said: Yes. YouTube gives the lawyers an easy framework to work within. They can be lazy and earn the fat check that way. I understand your axe you feel like you need to grind. It has nothing to do with going after "small guys." It's actually quite the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pebble&Park said: I understand your axe you feel like you need to grind. It has nothing to do with going after "small guys." It's actually quite the opposite. No axe to grind. Brickshow is small potatoes to the damage that’s been done by bogus bricks getting away with stealing from Lego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KShine Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pebble&Park said: I understand your axe you feel like you need to grind. It has nothing to do with going after "small guys." It's actually quite the opposite. I am not sure why people are having issues with either statement (as both opinions are making valid points). The target might be the big guys, but it's the small guys that get destroyed (the big guys are fine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 In other words go after the small guys because it’s easier to nail them. Less legal entanglements. You proved my point. It backfires because shows like BS are promoting the brand. Instead of taking them down Lego should be working with them. YouTube will start to pay as they push away from their roots in attempt to be just another paid subscription service. It has nothing to do with the size of the infringer...it has to do with the mechanism to address the enforcement. It's easier to send a takedown notice to Youtube than sue a contract manufacturer in China. That doesn't mean you don't go after the manufacturer, but it's easier, faster and far more visible when you go after the YoutuberSent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app Yes. YouTube gives the lawyers an easy framework to work within. They can be lazy and earn the fat check that way. Ha! If you think corporate lawyers make a fat check for taking down a single youtuber, you're further revealing the depths of your ignorance. Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I am not sure why people are having issues with either statement (as both opinions are making valid points). The target might be the big guys, but it's the small guys that get destroyed (the big guys are fine).The big guys are not necessarily fine. The mechanisms used to address the larger scale infringement move more slowly than the Youtube takedown process and the targets may profit from their activities in the meantime giving the appearance that all is well, but when they go down, they go down HARD. Brickshow may have lost their Youtube account, but they didn't have federal marshals raid their house and confiscate their computers and Lego or have an injunction entered preventing them from doing anything with Lego while awaiting a trial that they will lose and in which they will get slapped with a multi-million dollar judgment.Just because you don't see larger infringers getting their ass handed to them by Lego, doesn't mean that it isn't happening.Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KShine Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Sorry, I didn't realize that it was redcell posting - it all makes sense now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, redcell said: Ha! If you think corporate lawyers make a fat check for taking down a single youtuber, you're further revealing the depths of your ignorance. Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app They probably make more than most Lego set designers. But the lackeys taking down YouTubers are most likely low level stooges like your self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Raichu Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, redcell said: It has nothing to do with the size of the infringer...it has to do with the mechanism to address the enforcement. It's easier to send a takedown notice to Youtube than sue a contract manufacturer in China. That doesn't mean you don't go after the manufacturer, but it's easier, faster and far more visible when you go after the Youtuber Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app Ha! If you think corporate lawyers make a fat check for taking down a single youtuber, you're further revealing the depths of your ignorance. Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app Do the lawyers get paid by the number of heads / infringers they took down ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazuli16 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Since it seems like we're all in a pissy mood, my only contribution to this thread is that they only thing that the Brickshow takedown revealed to me was that I really dislike M&RProductions. I was on the fence before, but his video where he "broke" the news was really childish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 They probably make more than most Lego set designers. But the lackeys taking down YouTubers are most likely low level stooges like your self. You're funny. It generally helps to know what you're talking about before you open you're mouth. You tend to look like less of an idiot when you do so.Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcell Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 You're funny. It generally helps to know what you're talking about before you open you're mouth. You tend to look like less of an idiot when you do so.Sent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile appAnd it helps to pay closer attention when you're writing a post so you don't use you're instead of yourSent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil B Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 And it helps to pay closer attention when you're writing a post so you don't use you're instead of yourSent from my SM-G965U using Brickpicker Forum mobile app Isn't autocorvette supposed to help with that 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciter1 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Phil B said: Isn't autocorvette supposed to help with that When I text, autocorrect lowers my IQ about 30 points, down from 35. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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